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Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/23 20:49 Rajada i do not know if you remember my older brother Grafik but he made many maps, like pirate island. I'm also the son of Nerf Murf and Jammin, they got married idk if you knew that it's been a really long time. Anyways i've decided to take after my brother and make some maps. I went to some tutorials like wolfs tutorial but they were all offline. I suppose nerf is losing users

So anyways I was hoping you could make a tutorial or direct me to a working one. I hope you can help as my parents spoke very fondly of you in their younger years. Me and my sister Darkflame play nerf all the time and are very sad nerf is becoming 'old news' although it's plenty new for us

IF YOU CAN'T HELP ME SOMEONE IS GOING TO LOSE AN EYE, AND IT MIGHT BE ME

Thankishly yours,
-Portalboy
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/23 21:04 Hi there! Nice to hear from some familiar faces! I never really knew Grafik in person, but I love some of his maps, they were very well made.

The first link is to some video tutorials I have made:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE9A401CFF15C5B2C

This second link is to Wolf's Tutorials, using an archived version of the page:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080511020449/http://unreal.gamedesign.net/tutorials/ued.shtml

Of course you'll need the latest CP if you haven't got it already. Other than that, let me know if you run into any technical issues.

I'm also glad to hear that the family is passing on the tradition of this great game, its such an under-appreciated gem.
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/24 00:28 Thanks man, Much appreciated. My only concern is that I cant play my new level because...

...and don't laugh...

...I can't find the player spawn in the actors list

So any help in this regard would be great, thanks!

Also i appreciate how fast you responded, thank you!
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/24 01:37 Sorry,

I had skipped the lighting tutorial cause Grafik taught me a few years ago. after observing closer i realized in part 3 it didn't have any starts and in part 5 it did so i checked out 4 and there it was

Thanks for your help in getting my mapmaking running, I'll probably have a decent map out in about a month or two, who knows.

For sure i don't want to submit a lame first level so I'm going to study and practice until i can make one worth playing.

Thanks Rajada!
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/24 18:43 Sure thing man, keep me up to date! And if you or anyone else in your house that plays NAB has a Skype account, I can add any of you to our official group and keep you informed when we have our matches. I'm rajada.nab on Skype, feel free to add me. How to play NAB...



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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/24 20:27 Unfortunately i don't have skype but I have a problem, I have constructed a basic part of my map but there is this invisible wall that cuts through some geometry. I tried rebuilding geometry but it didn't fix it. There was a brush there from earlier that wasn't in use so i removed it and rebuilt geometry again but still there. Has this occurred before? Can you help at all? Is my stupid computer just too stupid to make the level right?

MY COMPUTER SUCKS
IT SUCKS SO BAD
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/25 02:24 Usually an invisible wall is a sign of a BSP hole. Other signs of a BSP hole include:

- Lighting in the area becoming extremely dark or non-existent
- Flickering/invisible polygons that render a hall of mirrors effect
-Instantly dieing for no reason when walking into the afflicted area

Usually, a BSP hole is caused by a bad polygon or complex brushes. I'd love to see the map so I can diagnose it, but usually you can fix it by switching to the BSP tab in the rebuilder and messing with the slider value, then rebuilding geometry again.

Your computer is likely not to blame, this game was released in 1999, and the only real issue NerfEd has with old computers is the RAM amount leading to slower rendering, but that is pretty standard for all 3D applications.

Post edited by: Rajada, at: 2012/01/25 02:26
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/26 22:48 Thanks, I'll try it!

P.S. I saw you edited Grafik's map a bit, somehow I feel honored in some way

P.P.S. I playing infiltration, nice work, vehicles is awesomes, ninjas + sumos = cool, The custom sounds and voices caught me totally by surprise, they made my days <yeah, more than one>

P.P.P.S. <whaaat?> You should start a nerf server on NN2 and we can battle. Nice bloblets

Sorry for my bad English, I'm American I'm just stupid
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/27 02:53 Yeah, Grafik's maps were pretty solid; a few needed some minor fixes but none of really needed any overhauls (You should see some of the ones that did though! Including: PM-SolitaryDuel, PM-Sniper'sAlley and PM-BluPsi).

Yeah, Infiltration was pretty cool (if not extremely difficult) at some parts. Thanks for all the accolades.

The current version of NN2 is a bit broken so I'd rather not, I think I need to fix a few things in an update first, but there's a ton of really great maps for smaller battles. Nowadays we mostly play deathmatch or Bots VS Players, which pits the players against a team of difficult bots as the players attempt to reach a certain goal, wether it be survive for the whole time limit or reach a set number of bot kills. I think you'd like it, as it is really fun to play cooperatively, it's a good break from me owning just about everyone in deathmatch. XD
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/27 20:04 Maybe we should be partners in a DM sometime, Port and Raj, Todd and Ryan, Scattershot and Triple-strike, Old and Older, The Prodigal and The Legend. Also I love working CO-OP, going solo makes people look cool but it makes them haughty jerks in the end

No offense to you soloists

Anyways we should play sometime. PEACE!
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/27 22:02 Rajada,

I have a group...
An internet-wide group of Super-elites that specialize in anything from battle to Modding for the team to Testing Possible Recruits (or TPR as we call it). I was thinking your clan would like to ally us.

I do not require or request that I gain access to clany things but i would like to forge an agreement for peace and allyship.

I know allyship isn't a word, I'm just weird.

So I hope you will accept this offer.

ON TOPIC: Anybody want to make a few guns/textures/sound-ques for my first level? shall be epic.
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/27 22:05 Rajada...

Requesting permission and help in pasting some of your classes into my map from infiltration, Bloblets, Vehicles, ETC.

I don't think I have to ask, it's just polite :3
I might though, but I doubt it cause they are in a public map.

Still though, you can never be too cautious.
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/01/28 02:00 go ahead, but you might want to talk to me about how to use them, they're tricky to set up. How to play NAB...



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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/02/02 18:02 Ah, great.

So I messed with the BSP sliders, changed from "optimal" to "good" and such, and rebuilt BSP.

Guess what?

the invisible wall remains and, as if that wasn't bad enough, which it is, now a block of my level disappeared. huzzah.

Not only that, I made an area under the main chunk and it's pitch black. when i apply a light I can't see the light symbol in the 3D view and as soon as I rebuild it turns dark again.

Any ideas?

I can't send you the level because

A: I'm not allowed to e-mail anyone except people i know in real.

B: I have a website but I don't know how to upload stuff yet.

C: Mediafire sucks, it gave me a virus with stupid Trojans hidden in adds, plus idk how to use.

Anyways i don't blame you in the slightest, I just hope to fix my broken level.

-Portalboy
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Re:Grafik's Prodigal Bro wants to make a map - 2012/02/02 18:57 Submit the file via the site's submit file feature, I'll get it from there and take a look. How to play NAB...



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